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		<title>By: Hail To The Main MoFo &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hail To The Main MoFo &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new era? Depends on how you look at it. We already covered some aspects of this, but the last 70+ days of the Big O preparing to become the top dog have given [...]</description>
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		<title>By: US Election On Best Political Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some Ironies Of The US Presidential Elections &#124; SLEEPING WITH &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>US Election On Best Political Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some Ironies Of The US Presidential Elections &#124; SLEEPING WITH &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Some Ironies Of The US Presidential Elections &#124; SLEEPING WITH &#8230; With Pengovsky gives his “fifty cents” on “some ironies of the US presidential elections.” Posted by Veronica Khokhlova […] Global Voices Online » U.S.: Election Commentary from Slovenia Says: November 7th, 2008 at 2:37 am &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; U.S.: Election Commentary from Slovenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; U.S.: Election Commentary from Slovenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; U.S.: Election Commentary from Slovenia</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; U.S.: Election Commentary from Slovenia</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael N.</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112313</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pengovsky:  Sorry should've been more specific.  He was talking about just after the stock market crash in 1929.  Hoover was President at that time.

@Pirano:  While I was eating lunch, I was listening to the radio and heard about those reports you spoke of.  From what I heard they are all anonymous reports coming from the McCain campaign workers.  Same source Fox News is getting them from.  With that information, I'm wary of the validity of this all.  Besides the geography allegations, she supposedly was so hard on these workers (good grief) she made some of them cry (some of these people need to grow a pair!).  Sounds to me like, a bunch of whiny little punks throwing their VP candidate under the bus.  What a shock; political insiders stabbing someone in the back, for their own gain.  This just sounds like the McCain campaign workers covering their own ass because they lost and are trying to deflect the blame and loss all onto Palin instead of their own crappy political strategy to win the election.

Some of the reports may be true, but at this point they could probably say anything and people will believe it.  Of course they fail to realize it's most likely just a bunch of disgruntled campaign workers who are worried about getting rightfully blamed, and want to be able to work for the next GOP election campaign in 2012.  Frankly I hope none of these jokers are back for 2012.  

I thought the conservative commentator that I was listening to nailed it right on the head.  If these people in the McCain campaign who are throwing Palin under the bus had put this much enthusiasm &#38; effort into getting their candidate elected, maybe they wouldn't have lost the election!

Well you're right it's not too much to expect them to be a notch above a college grad...of course my point is most of them aren't.  They sure like to give the impression they're much more intelligent then the rest of us.  Sadly, it's almost never true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pengovsky:  Sorry should&#8217;ve been more specific.  He was talking about just after the stock market crash in 1929.  Hoover was President at that time.</p>
<p>@Pirano:  While I was eating lunch, I was listening to the radio and heard about those reports you spoke of.  From what I heard they are all anonymous reports coming from the McCain campaign workers.  Same source Fox News is getting them from.  With that information, I&#8217;m wary of the validity of this all.  Besides the geography allegations, she supposedly was so hard on these workers (good grief) she made some of them cry (some of these people need to grow a pair!).  Sounds to me like, a bunch of whiny little punks throwing their VP candidate under the bus.  What a shock; political insiders stabbing someone in the back, for their own gain.  This just sounds like the McCain campaign workers covering their own ass because they lost and are trying to deflect the blame and loss all onto Palin instead of their own crappy political strategy to win the election.</p>
<p>Some of the reports may be true, but at this point they could probably say anything and people will believe it.  Of course they fail to realize it&#8217;s most likely just a bunch of disgruntled campaign workers who are worried about getting rightfully blamed, and want to be able to work for the next GOP election campaign in 2012.  Frankly I hope none of these jokers are back for 2012.  </p>
<p>I thought the conservative commentator that I was listening to nailed it right on the head.  If these people in the McCain campaign who are throwing Palin under the bus had put this much enthusiasm &amp; effort into getting their candidate elected, maybe they wouldn&#8217;t have lost the election!</p>
<p>Well you&#8217;re right it&#8217;s not too much to expect them to be a notch above a college grad&#8230;of course my point is most of them aren&#8217;t.  They sure like to give the impression they&#8217;re much more intelligent then the rest of us.  Sadly, it&#8217;s almost never true!</p>
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		<title>By: pirano</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112304</link>
		<dc:creator>pirano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michael N - I've heard Biden say LOTS of dumb things over the past 20+ years. But there's a big difference between saying something really dumb and being really.. well, entirely unfit on virtually every level to be a vice president.

And no, I don't think it's too much to expect members of congress to know the basics of geography, history etc of their immediate region or the rest of the world. It's not too much to expect them to be at least a notch above the average college grad, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michael N - I&#8217;ve heard Biden say LOTS of dumb things over the past 20+ years. But there&#8217;s a big difference between saying something really dumb and being really.. well, entirely unfit on virtually every level to be a vice president.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too much to expect members of congress to know the basics of geography, history etc of their immediate region or the rest of the world. It&#8217;s not too much to expect them to be at least a notch above the average college grad, either.</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112291</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alcessa: Point. Condi Rice and Collin Powell slipped my mind. Thanks :)

@Adriaan: Well, with the looming recession I'll be back to my two cents daily soon ;)

@venera: OK, but I don't think he ever opposed the "title" of the first black president. I mean, he is half-caucasian genetically, but sociologically, I think he's as African-American as they come, regardless of his top-notch education. No?

@Pirano &#038; Michael N.: Thanks for the insight, guys! Much appreciate it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alcessa: Point. Condi Rice and Collin Powell slipped my mind. Thanks <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Adriaan: Well, with the looming recession I&#8217;ll be back to my two cents daily soon <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@venera: OK, but I don&#8217;t think he ever opposed the &#8220;title&#8221; of the first black president. I mean, he is half-caucasian genetically, but sociologically, I think he&#8217;s as African-American as they come, regardless of his top-notch education. No?</p>
<p>@Pirano &#038; Michael N.: Thanks for the insight, guys! Much appreciate it!</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112289</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael N: FDR &lt;I&gt;was&lt;/I&gt; President during the Great Depression (&lt;a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt" rel="nofollow"&gt;source&lt;/A&gt;). As for his address on television, perhaps &lt;a HREF="http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/first-president-tv.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/A&gt; will help clear up the confusion?

Or am I missing something here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael N: FDR <i>was</i> President during the Great Depression (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/en.wikipedia.org');">source</a>). As for his address on television, perhaps <a href="http://www.infoplease.com/askeds/first-president-tv.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.infoplease.com');">this</a> will help clear up the confusion?</p>
<p>Or am I missing something here?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael N.</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112246</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/11/06/some-ironies-of-the-us-presidential-elections/#comment-112246</guid>
		<description>@Pirano: Ok, well NAFTA &#38; NA are a world of difference. :)  So yeah I'll agree on that part it is sad.

And with my quote about "walking down the street", is that just about everyone is going to get the NA (not NAFTA) question wrong.  Unless you're one of those Geography bee kids who study like crazy to win those contests.  Let's be honest most politicians aren't geniuses.  Most are probably on par with a College Grad.  So it isn't too much to relate to a person on the street.  At any rate I'd bet money, not one congressmen would be able to name every country in NA.

BTW, you didn't answer my 2nd question about geography/political history. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pirano: Ok, well NAFTA &amp; NA are a world of difference. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  So yeah I&#8217;ll agree on that part it is sad.</p>
<p>And with my quote about &#8220;walking down the street&#8221;, is that just about everyone is going to get the NA (not NAFTA) question wrong.  Unless you&#8217;re one of those Geography bee kids who study like crazy to win those contests.  Let&#8217;s be honest most politicians aren&#8217;t geniuses.  Most are probably on par with a College Grad.  So it isn&#8217;t too much to relate to a person on the street.  At any rate I&#8217;d bet money, not one congressmen would be able to name every country in NA.</p>
<p>BTW, you didn&#8217;t answer my 2nd question about geography/political history. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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