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	<title>Comments on: Less Than 10 Percent Turnout</title>
	<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/</link>
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		<title>By: The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-142394</link>
		<dc:creator>The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-142394</guid>
		<description>[...] other side of the coin of course is that as little as 10 percent of the voters can attend (as happened with the referendum on regions). But if the other 90 percent did not bother to attend, who&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] other side of the coin of course is that as little as 10 percent of the voters can attend (as happened with the referendum on regions). But if the other 90 percent did not bother to attend, who&#8217;s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Slovenia: PM&#8217;s Speech; Referendum</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-85089</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Slovenia: PM&#8217;s Speech; Referendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-85089</guid>
		<description>[...] with Pengovsky writes about the referendum in Slovenia - here and here, and compares Slovene PM Janez Janša&#39;s speech delivered on Statehood Day two years [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] with Pengovsky writes about the referendum in Slovenia - here and here, and compares Slovene PM Janez Janša&#39;s speech delivered on Statehood Day two years [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81888</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81888</guid>
		<description>@dr. fil: Heh, heh :D I guess that particular area voted in favour of the regions?

@Cornelius: My appologies. Spam filter was apparently feeling a bit trigger-happy. To tell you the truth, I almost forgot to vote too :mrgreen: But fact of the matter is that November last, when Danilo Türk was elected as the new Prez, PM Janša talked about resignation is only to reinforce his position. Today, he doesn't have to. All he needed to claim victory was a relative majority and he got it. 

Forgive me for saying so, but what we saw yesterday (politically speaking) wasn't a boycott. It was a forefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dr. fil: Heh, heh <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> I guess that particular area voted in favour of the regions?</p>
<p>@Cornelius: My appologies. Spam filter was apparently feeling a bit trigger-happy. To tell you the truth, I almost forgot to vote too <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> But fact of the matter is that November last, when Danilo Türk was elected as the new Prez, PM Janša talked about resignation is only to reinforce his position. Today, he doesn&#8217;t have to. All he needed to claim victory was a relative majority and he got it. </p>
<p>Forgive me for saying so, but what we saw yesterday (politically speaking) wasn&#8217;t a boycott. It was a forefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81882</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81882</guid>
		<description>I posted a comment yesterday, but it seems it got lost in the e-eternal hunting grounds... :(

Anyway, what I had to say was this: I drove across Slovenia to be home on referendum Sunday, and then I simply forgot to go vote... But I'm not too fazed about it, either (I'm a rabid voter, otherwise) - there's no way in hell my "no" would be interpreted as it would have been meant: "Quit jerking around with the ridiculously tiny regions and put a serious proposal with 3 to 6 regions on the table."

As Igor D. pointed out, it could actually be intepreted as: "I'm unhappy with the (Savinjska-Šaleška) region proposed and would rather see two regions instead."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment yesterday, but it seems it got lost in the e-eternal hunting grounds&#8230; <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, what I had to say was this: I drove across Slovenia to be home on referendum Sunday, and then I simply forgot to go vote&#8230; But I&#8217;m not too fazed about it, either (I&#8217;m a rabid voter, otherwise) - there&#8217;s no way in hell my &#8220;no&#8221; would be interpreted as it would have been meant: &#8220;Quit jerking around with the ridiculously tiny regions and put a serious proposal with 3 to 6 regions on the table.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Igor D. pointed out, it could actually be intepreted as: &#8220;I&#8217;m unhappy with the (Savinjska-Šaleška) region proposed and would rather see two regions instead.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dr. filomena</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81876</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. filomena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81876</guid>
		<description>I was shocked that at around 1 am that I showed up at my polling station, 28 (twenty eight!) per cent of voters from our district had already placed their votes. I thought that was a phenomenal result and it turns out it really was far above average. 

Since I'm changing my permanent residence I guess I won't be as proud of my co-voters in the future :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked that at around 1 am that I showed up at my polling station, 28 (twenty eight!) per cent of voters from our district had already placed their votes. I thought that was a phenomenal result and it turns out it really was far above average. </p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m changing my permanent residence I guess I won&#8217;t be as proud of my co-voters in the future <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81867</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81867</guid>
		<description>@gandalf: Usually, the turnout is about 30 percent. Until yesterday, I was convinced that the turnout would be the same even if people were asked to decide the height of grass on the  new Ljubljana footbal pitch. Turns out I was wrong :)

@Disablez: Especially in Central Slovenia, where the question was as long as my... arm :twisted:

@Igor D: Very much to the point. Although one could claim that  - given the experience with municipalities - voters would support even more regions. The turnout would remain problematic, however.

@Sunshine: True that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gandalf: Usually, the turnout is about 30 percent. Until yesterday, I was convinced that the turnout would be the same even if people were asked to decide the height of grass on the  new Ljubljana footbal pitch. Turns out I was wrong <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Disablez: Especially in Central Slovenia, where the question was as long as my&#8230; arm <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Igor D: Very much to the point. Although one could claim that  - given the experience with municipalities - voters would support even more regions. The turnout would remain problematic, however.</p>
<p>@Sunshine: True that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81854</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81854</guid>
		<description>When I cast my vote around 2 PM only 23 people showed there before me in my polling station. :( I was shocked. I think it's a pity that turnout was so low. It's worth fighting against referendum while we can still change something. After it, not voting when referendum is already inevitable, is a waste of taxpayers money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I cast my vote around 2 PM only 23 people showed there before me in my polling station. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> I was shocked. I think it&#8217;s a pity that turnout was so low. It&#8217;s worth fighting against referendum while we can still change something. After it, not voting when referendum is already inevitable, is a waste of taxpayers money.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Đukanović</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81775</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor Đukanović</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81775</guid>
		<description>In my opinion, the voters refused to answer simple question as they knew very well that the answer will be misinterpreted in a number of ways.

For example the question that I had to answer was do I agree that towns Maribor, Miklavz, Ruse, ..., and Bistrica form a county.  I do not since I do not believe that such a small county would be able to function well.  However voting against might well be interpreted that I do not like some of my neighbors in this county - that it is still too large.  So I just made a big cross over the question, and my vote will not count.

Since less than 10% voters showed up, it is clear that a better posed question with Slovenia divided in less regions would attract more interest and wider acceptance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the voters refused to answer simple question as they knew very well that the answer will be misinterpreted in a number of ways.</p>
<p>For example the question that I had to answer was do I agree that towns Maribor, Miklavz, Ruse, &#8230;, and Bistrica form a county.  I do not since I do not believe that such a small county would be able to function well.  However voting against might well be interpreted that I do not like some of my neighbors in this county - that it is still too large.  So I just made a big cross over the question, and my vote will not count.</p>
<p>Since less than 10% voters showed up, it is clear that a better posed question with Slovenia divided in less regions would attract more interest and wider acceptance.</p>
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		<title>By: Cornelius</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81774</link>
		<dc:creator>Cornelius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81774</guid>
		<description>I drove across Slovenia to be home on referendum Sunday, and it turns out I forgot to go vote. I'm not too fazed about it, neither - there is no way in hell my "no" would be interpreted as it would have been meant: "Quit jerking around with the ridiculously tiny regions and put a proposal of somewhere between 3 and 6 regions on the table."

I checked the latest official results (http://www.dvk.gov.si/RefPokrajine2008I/index4.html , Slovene only, I'm afraid), and the turnout is almost 11%, and most regions got confirmed, with the exception of the Central Slovenia region (62% against) and the Coastal and Prekmurje regions (both in the vicinity of 52% against).
While the Central Slovenia region my be a bit of a hard nut to crack - too many voters there to plain out disregard - I expect the government to keep schtum about the poor turnout and start trumpeting the overall success of the referendi.
The oposition will, of course, start screaming bloody murder about the criminally poor price-turnout correlation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I drove across Slovenia to be home on referendum Sunday, and it turns out I forgot to go vote. I&#8217;m not too fazed about it, neither - there is no way in hell my &#8220;no&#8221; would be interpreted as it would have been meant: &#8220;Quit jerking around with the ridiculously tiny regions and put a proposal of somewhere between 3 and 6 regions on the table.&#8221;</p>
<p>I checked the latest official results (http://www.dvk.gov.si/RefPokrajine2008I/index4.html , Slovene only, I&#8217;m afraid), and the turnout is almost 11%, and most regions got confirmed, with the exception of the Central Slovenia region (62% against) and the Coastal and Prekmurje regions (both in the vicinity of 52% against).<br />
While the Central Slovenia region my be a bit of a hard nut to crack - too many voters there to plain out disregard - I expect the government to keep schtum about the poor turnout and start trumpeting the overall success of the referendi.<br />
The oposition will, of course, start screaming bloody murder about the criminally poor price-turnout correlation.</p>
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		<title>By: Disablez</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81739</link>
		<dc:creator>Disablez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/22/less-than-10-percent-turnout/#comment-81739</guid>
		<description>The remaining 90% is still reading the questions' wording...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The remaining 90% is still reading the questions&#8217; wording&#8230;</p>
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