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	<title>Comments on: On Referendum</title>
	<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/</link>
	<description>sex and politics</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bora.La &#187; Solo l&#8217;11% va a votare per il referendum sloveno sulle Regioni</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-82221</link>
		<dc:creator>Bora.La &#187; Solo l&#8217;11% va a votare per il referendum sloveno sulle Regioni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-82221</guid>
		<description>[...] fatto&#8230; peccato!&#8221;. Pengosky spiega molto bene, in inglese, il referendum sulle Regioni qua (post prima delle elezioni), qua (post durante, ove uno degli scrutatori chiede al blogger al seggio &#8220;ma di cosa tratta [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] fatto&#8230; peccato!&#8221;. Pengosky spiega molto bene, in inglese, il referendum sulle Regioni qua (post prima delle elezioni), qua (post durante, ove uno degli scrutatori chiede al blogger al seggio &#8220;ma di cosa tratta [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Less Than 10 Percent Turnout &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-81734</link>
		<dc:creator>Less Than 10 Percent Turnout &#124; SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-81734</guid>
		<description>[...] predicted, a battle for interpretation will start. PM Janša is scheduled to give a statement at 2100 by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] predicted, a battle for interpretation will start. PM Janša is scheduled to give a statement at 2100 by [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: pele</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-81330</link>
		<dc:creator>pele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-81330</guid>
		<description>Well, our referendums are the most direct, insulting and the most spectacular way of conveying to us what the politicians really have us voters for - a bunch of witless stupidity-hungry easy-money sheep. The way the whole system of referendums is currently set-up and used, it is hard for me to even think about them let alone attend them, but you are right. Our constitution mentions direct democracy (referendums etc.) before representational and it should be the future of our political system - if only our politicians would let us have it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, our referendums are the most direct, insulting and the most spectacular way of conveying to us what the politicians really have us voters for - a bunch of witless stupidity-hungry easy-money sheep. The way the whole system of referendums is currently set-up and used, it is hard for me to even think about them let alone attend them, but you are right. Our constitution mentions direct democracy (referendums etc.) before representational and it should be the future of our political system - if only our politicians would let us have it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alcessa</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80812</link>
		<dc:creator>alcessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80812</guid>
		<description>Oops... :oops: Pengovsky: can you push this comment to the post underneath? Someone got up early today...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230; <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /> Pengovsky: can you push this comment to the post underneath? Someone got up early today&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alcessa</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80803</link>
		<dc:creator>alcessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80803</guid>
		<description>Poulette: thx for commenting, I checked the term "federalism" and found out that I had meant "federalism" in its German usage, rather than its EU-usage, as explained in Wikipedia: &lt;i&gt;In Europe, "federalism" is sometimes used to describe those who favor a stronger federal government (for example, with governance under the European Union) and weaker provincial governments. In federal nations of Europe (such as Germany, Austria and Switzerland) or South America (such as Argentina or Brazil), the term "strong federalism" usually means sub-national states having more power than the national (federal) government, in contrast with a centralist system.&lt;/i&gt;
As for the "unionists", it now turns out the term is not only non-existent in this field, it is also not necessary. :-)

The interesting thing about the L-Treaty is that it is supposed to give more power "to the people", i.e. national parliaments, possibly pushing some of the responsibility in the direction of people's chosen representatives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poulette: thx for commenting, I checked the term &#8220;federalism&#8221; and found out that I had meant &#8220;federalism&#8221; in its German usage, rather than its EU-usage, as explained in Wikipedia: <i>In Europe, &#8220;federalism&#8221; is sometimes used to describe those who favor a stronger federal government (for example, with governance under the European Union) and weaker provincial governments. In federal nations of Europe (such as Germany, Austria and Switzerland) or South America (such as Argentina or Brazil), the term &#8220;strong federalism&#8221; usually means sub-national states having more power than the national (federal) government, in contrast with a centralist system.</i><br />
As for the &#8220;unionists&#8221;, it now turns out the term is not only non-existent in this field, it is also not necessary. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The interesting thing about the L-Treaty is that it is supposed to give more power &#8220;to the people&#8221;, i.e. national parliaments, possibly pushing some of the responsibility in the direction of people&#8217;s chosen representatives?</p>
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		<title>By: venera</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80794</link>
		<dc:creator>venera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80794</guid>
		<description>The developed one being Severna Primorska or Goriška, for sure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The developed one being Severna Primorska or Goriška, for sure</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80773</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80773</guid>
		<description>Because for the time being Slovenia is not a federal state and decisions on the constitutional fibre of the country (which regions are) affect all citizens.

Or to put it in Miltonian terms - since it is your money that will be transfered to the undeveloped regions (and believe me, all but one will be undeveloped), don't you feel you have a say on the isse?

Always, &lt;I&gt;always&lt;/I&gt; follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because for the time being Slovenia is not a federal state and decisions on the constitutional fibre of the country (which regions are) affect all citizens.</p>
<p>Or to put it in Miltonian terms - since it is your money that will be transfered to the undeveloped regions (and believe me, all but one will be undeveloped), don&#8217;t you feel you have a say on the isse?</p>
<p>Always, <i>always</i> follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80769</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2008/06/19/on-referendum/#comment-80769</guid>
		<description>I agree on one thing: no matter of the opinion, go and express it on the referendum. Indifference bothers me deeply and allows people to get away with all sorts of nasty deeds. :(

I disagree on one thing: why the heck should I tell other people in which region to live and how to call it? :shock: That's their thing and they should have a say, not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on one thing: no matter of the opinion, go and express it on the referendum. Indifference bothers me deeply and allows people to get away with all sorts of nasty deeds. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I disagree on one thing: why the heck should I tell other people in which region to live and how to call it? <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> That&#8217;s their thing and they should have a say, not me.</p>
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