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	<title>Comments on: Elections Explained</title>
	<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/</link>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Slovenia: &#8220;Elections Explained&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-33032</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Slovenia: &#8220;Elections Explained&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-33032</guid>
		<description>[...] Sleeping with Pengovksy explains &#8220;what is it with Slovenes that they seem to run politicians from power for no apparent reason.&#8221;   Share This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Sleeping with Pengovksy explains &#8220;what is it with Slovenes that they seem to run politicians from power for no apparent reason.&#8221;   Share This [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31528</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31528</guid>
		<description>The last bit was obviously meant sarcastically...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last bit was obviously meant sarcastically&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31527</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31527</guid>
		<description>I was against &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;the proposed package of reforms&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;. Please don't read selectively and/or out of context. 

The way Janša went about this business was just wrong.

Besides... Why do we need reforms, since GDP growth is up, deficit is (as you say) smaller, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was against <i><b>the proposed package of reforms</b></i>. Please don&#8217;t read selectively and/or out of context. </p>
<p>The way Janša went about this business was just wrong.</p>
<p>Besides&#8230; Why do we need reforms, since GDP growth is up, deficit is (as you say) smaller, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaž Štih</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31522</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomaž Štih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31522</guid>
		<description>Point made.

You are against reforms, buddy. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point made.</p>
<p>You are against reforms, buddy. <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31465</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31465</guid>
		<description>So now it the circles of power that appoint governments? You're getting more and more desperate... 

Let me remind you that for now all we have is a new president and a massive warning signal to the government.

And your calling for the government to resign is bullshit (pardon my French). There is no reason for it to do so. This government still has a majority in the parliament and the coalition is stable. Quitting now (less then a year before parliamentary elections) would be an act of irresponsibility on behalf of the government which cannot take criticism.

It is the same story all over again. Janša either has it entirely his way or he quits. His unwillingness to compromise is his undoing.

As for my expectations of the next government (which will be headed by JJ in my opinion):

I expect them to - primarily - curb inflation. 

As for the rest:
&lt;I&gt;Lower taxes like this government gave?&lt;/I&gt;
Only if this means that a bigger net wage. I - however remain convinced that lowering taxes would result in lower &lt;b&gt;gross&lt;/B&gt; wage, whereas net wage will remain the same

&lt;I&gt;Privatization of schools which they want to undermine?&lt;/I&gt;
Whatever made you believe that I support privatisation of schools?

&lt;I&gt;Better environment for business while calling for more power to the unions?&lt;/I&gt;
Believe it or not that goes hand in hand.

&lt;I&gt;More competition while being against more powers for the regions which could bring tax competition and similar means to compete?&lt;/I&gt;
WHAT??? Tax competition between regions? In Slovenia? Please, wake up and smell reality! 

&lt;I&gt;Privatization after being against selling state run companies?&lt;/I&gt;
Correction: against &lt;B&gt;non-transparent&lt;/B&gt; selling of state companies. And there are companies that we should never sell.

&lt;I&gt;Lower prices of real estate and condos after this government issued avg. 60% more permits to build then the old one?&lt;/I&gt;
WHAT lower prices of real estate?

And you say that the opposition is &lt;I&gt;sans&lt;/I&gt; platform... Be a sport, &lt;a HREF="http://www.socialnidemokrati.si/avp/" rel="nofollow"&gt;help them write one!&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now it the circles of power that appoint governments? You&#8217;re getting more and more desperate&#8230; </p>
<p>Let me remind you that for now all we have is a new president and a massive warning signal to the government.</p>
<p>And your calling for the government to resign is bullshit (pardon my French). There is no reason for it to do so. This government still has a majority in the parliament and the coalition is stable. Quitting now (less then a year before parliamentary elections) would be an act of irresponsibility on behalf of the government which cannot take criticism.</p>
<p>It is the same story all over again. Janša either has it entirely his way or he quits. His unwillingness to compromise is his undoing.</p>
<p>As for my expectations of the next government (which will be headed by JJ in my opinion):</p>
<p>I expect them to - primarily - curb inflation. </p>
<p>As for the rest:<br />
<i>Lower taxes like this government gave?</i><br />
Only if this means that a bigger net wage. I - however remain convinced that lowering taxes would result in lower <b>gross</b> wage, whereas net wage will remain the same</p>
<p><i>Privatization of schools which they want to undermine?</i><br />
Whatever made you believe that I support privatisation of schools?</p>
<p><i>Better environment for business while calling for more power to the unions?</i><br />
Believe it or not that goes hand in hand.</p>
<p><i>More competition while being against more powers for the regions which could bring tax competition and similar means to compete?</i><br />
WHAT??? Tax competition between regions? In Slovenia? Please, wake up and smell reality! </p>
<p><i>Privatization after being against selling state run companies?</i><br />
Correction: against <b>non-transparent</b> selling of state companies. And there are companies that we should never sell.</p>
<p><i>Lower prices of real estate and condos after this government issued avg. 60% more permits to build then the old one?</i><br />
WHAT lower prices of real estate?</p>
<p>And you say that the opposition is <i>sans</i> platform&#8230; Be a sport, <a href="http://www.socialnidemokrati.si/avp/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.socialnidemokrati.si');">help them write one!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tomaž Štih</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31460</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomaž Štih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31460</guid>
		<description>"if the next government (whichever it may be) uderperforms, it will be voted out of office. It is that simple."

It is never that simple. New government might be voted out of office if it performs well by the same circles of power that they created to get rid of this one. Durable politics is in my opinion about expectation management; that you as an alternative can meet.

p.s.
My positive bias towards this government? I am calling for them to resign while the opposition wants them to stay. My only worry is that I see no alternative on the other side. Opposition is currently program-less and they are held together by their love of power and hate towards this government. When this government goes, what do you expect of them?

Lower taxes like this government gave?

Privatization of schools which they want to undermine?

Better environment for business while calling for more power to the unions?

More competition while being against more powers for the regions which could bring tax competition and similar means to compete?

Privatization after being against selling state run companies?

Lower prices of real estate and condos after this government issued avg. 60% more permits to build then the old one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if the next government (whichever it may be) uderperforms, it will be voted out of office. It is that simple.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is never that simple. New government might be voted out of office if it performs well by the same circles of power that they created to get rid of this one. Durable politics is in my opinion about expectation management; that you as an alternative can meet.</p>
<p>p.s.<br />
My positive bias towards this government? I am calling for them to resign while the opposition wants them to stay. My only worry is that I see no alternative on the other side. Opposition is currently program-less and they are held together by their love of power and hate towards this government. When this government goes, what do you expect of them?</p>
<p>Lower taxes like this government gave?</p>
<p>Privatization of schools which they want to undermine?</p>
<p>Better environment for business while calling for more power to the unions?</p>
<p>More competition while being against more powers for the regions which could bring tax competition and similar means to compete?</p>
<p>Privatization after being against selling state run companies?</p>
<p>Lower prices of real estate and condos after this government issued avg. 60% more permits to build then the old one?</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31454</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31454</guid>
		<description>Hey, don't blame me for the fact that this government is underperforming! :lol:

Lies and deceptions you talk about do (I take it) come in form of higher prices (think inflation), lack of consistent policies (think reforms, regional legistation), reprieiving a particular city of a huge chunk of money because it elected the "wrong" mayor (think Ljubljana), selling state-owned shares of sucessful companies waaay below market-price /(think Mercator), attempting (and partially suceeding) to control the media (think Radio and TV SLO, Primorske Novice, Delo until recently).... The list is long and distinguished...

I understand that we may differ on macroeconomics. And I may well be wrong (time will tell). But (and I see that now) your liberal stance is only a cover for your bias in favour of this particular government.

But to answer your last question (and I hope by that we can put an end to the "us/them" debate): if the next government (whichever it may be) uderperforms, it will be voted out of office. It is that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, don&#8217;t blame me for the fact that this government is underperforming! <img src='http://www.pengovsky.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lies and deceptions you talk about do (I take it) come in form of higher prices (think inflation), lack of consistent policies (think reforms, regional legistation), reprieiving a particular city of a huge chunk of money because it elected the &#8220;wrong&#8221; mayor (think Ljubljana), selling state-owned shares of sucessful companies waaay below market-price /(think Mercator), attempting (and partially suceeding) to control the media (think Radio and TV SLO, Primorske Novice, Delo until recently)&#8230;. The list is long and distinguished&#8230;</p>
<p>I understand that we may differ on macroeconomics. And I may well be wrong (time will tell). But (and I see that now) your liberal stance is only a cover for your bias in favour of this particular government.</p>
<p>But to answer your last question (and I hope by that we can put an end to the &#8220;us/them&#8221; debate): if the next government (whichever it may be) uderperforms, it will be voted out of office. It is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaž Štih</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31451</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomaž Štih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31451</guid>
		<description>I don't think you understood the "you can't win this battle" part, but you'll learn. Latest when your weapons of lies and deceptions turn on you. These are not tools of durable politics. If people are today taught by you to be unsatisfied with great results; then how will you tomorrow satisfy them with lower ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you understood the &#8220;you can&#8217;t win this battle&#8221; part, but you&#8217;ll learn. Latest when your weapons of lies and deceptions turn on you. These are not tools of durable politics. If people are today taught by you to be unsatisfied with great results; then how will you tomorrow satisfy them with lower ones?</p>
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		<title>By: pengovsky</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31248</link>
		<dc:creator>pengovsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31248</guid>
		<description>You do realize the infinite stupidity of your last comment, don't you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize the infinite stupidity of your last comment, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaž Štih</title>
		<link>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31247</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomaž Štih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/11/13/elections-explained/#comment-31247</guid>
		<description>What an ignorance. You mobilize practically all journalists in 2 million size country to publicly destroy reforms and then you pretend you didn't do. That unions weren't street divisions of political left; that 571 journalists didn't lobby for complete left hegemony in the media and most of all -and that's funny- you call the government that has lowest unemployment and highest growth in history of our country incompetent (from the position of the one who devastated the pension fund and lead country to structural deficit).
And then you come with a child story which lacks crucial factors - that Johnny broke Mary's leg before climbing Everest just in case she had a chance to made it...
Seriously, my friends, you can't win this battle; you are just too much out of touch with reality. 
You can have the media under your control. That's okay. You also have a right to your own opinion; regardless of its fictional nature.
But no man has a right to his own reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an ignorance. You mobilize practically all journalists in 2 million size country to publicly destroy reforms and then you pretend you didn&#8217;t do. That unions weren&#8217;t street divisions of political left; that 571 journalists didn&#8217;t lobby for complete left hegemony in the media and most of all -and that&#8217;s funny- you call the government that has lowest unemployment and highest growth in history of our country incompetent (from the position of the one who devastated the pension fund and lead country to structural deficit).<br />
And then you come with a child story which lacks crucial factors - that Johnny broke Mary&#8217;s leg before climbing Everest just in case she had a chance to made it&#8230;<br />
Seriously, my friends, you can&#8217;t win this battle; you are just too much out of touch with reality.<br />
You can have the media under your control. That&#8217;s okay. You also have a right to your own opinion; regardless of its fictional nature.<br />
But no man has a right to his own reality.</p>
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