Comments on: Where Have All the Farmers Gone? http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/ sex and politics Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:49:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: lisa http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24303 lisa Fri, 28 Sep 2007 06:11:15 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24303 I do know what you mean in a way...our CDN dollar is now at par (and actually surpassed the american dollar last week for a few hours) and yet, despite the fact that we have had a strong dollar for more than a year, we still have to pay as much as or more than 1.5 times what americans do for the same goods. Retailers in Canada are raking it in, and sometimes (as in the case of the car dealerships) are actually trying to stop people from cross-border shopping. Fuckers! I do know what you mean in a way…our CDN dollar is now at par (and actually surpassed the american dollar last week for a few hours) and yet, despite the fact that we have had a strong dollar for more than a year, we still have to pay as much as or more than 1.5 times what americans do for the same goods. Retailers in Canada are raking it in, and sometimes (as in the case of the car dealerships) are actually trying to stop people from cross-border shopping. Fuckers!

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24204 pengovsky Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:42:32 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24204 Perhaps I was not specific enough (it happens, when I get angry about something). I am angry about those farmers who are making hefty profits <B>and</B> keep getting the subsidies. I'm also angry at EU budget-makers who don't have the guts to change this policy. I think both should be hanging by their balls off a lamp-post in downtown Brussels.... Perhaps I was not specific enough (it happens, when I get angry about something). I am angry about those farmers who are making hefty profits and keep getting the subsidies. I’m also angry at EU budget-makers who don’t have the guts to change this policy.

I think both should be hanging by their balls off a lamp-post in downtown Brussels….

]]> By: lisa http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24183 lisa Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:52:26 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24183 I don't think you're actually angry at farmers. The small handful who get to set prices, earn big (or often, any) profit, and influence policies negatively aren't farmers. They're agribusiness managers and conglomerates. Farming is a harsh flipping business, and I can guarantee you that 90% of farmers aren't rolling around on a large mountain of cash stashed in the barn, laughing maniacally. They're more likely out there, sitting on a hay bale having a good cry because the rain came before the hay was all brought in and they just lost 8000 euros on the crop, despite pulling fourteen hour days. Don't ask me how I know that last bit. I don’t think you’re actually angry at farmers. The small handful who get to set prices, earn big (or often, any) profit, and influence policies negatively aren’t farmers. They’re agribusiness managers and conglomerates. Farming is a harsh flipping business, and I can guarantee you that 90% of farmers aren’t rolling around on a large mountain of cash stashed in the barn, laughing maniacally. They’re more likely out there, sitting on a hay bale having a good cry because the rain came before the hay was all brought in and they just lost 8000 euros on the crop, despite pulling fourteen hour days. Don’t ask me how I know that last bit.

]]> By: ARF http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24174 ARF Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:32:21 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24174 @Dietmar : I wouldn't know, Belgium hasn't been part of Holland since 1830, and that includes their tomatoes... :twisted: @Dietmar : I wouldn’t know, Belgium hasn’t been part of Holland since 1830, and that includes their tomatoes… :twisted:

]]> By: Disablez http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24149 Disablez Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:51:51 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24149 You scared me. :/ Seeing a bit of blood in veins is not bad :) You scared me. :/
Seeing a bit of blood in veins is not bad :)

]]> By: Dietmar http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24148 Dietmar Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:49:32 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24148 The Dutch are famous for their agriculture (greenhouse) here. But people say that water exists in four states of aggregation: ice, liquid, gaseous and Dutch tomatoes :twisted: The Dutch are famous for their agriculture (greenhouse) here. But people say that water exists in four states of aggregation: ice, liquid, gaseous and Dutch tomatoes :twisted:

]]> By: ARF http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24144 ARF Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:58:12 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24144 "I firmly believe that EU farmers are on the “fat cats” side. EU preaches fair trade to Latin America, China and Africa, but when its farmers cry “wolf!”" Exactly that was cause for a row last year about the export of agricultural produce from Latin America to the EU. European farmers - France as usual at the head of the queue - protested en masse that they would lose their subsidies. On the other hand, modern day farmers here in Belgium are being forced into expansion or go bust. They have to play the game along with the big corporations or get out. But they, too, have a strong union that will cry wolf for them. And what they say in Svabia is true here as well... ;) “I firmly believe that EU farmers are on the “fat cats” side. EU preaches fair trade to Latin America, China and Africa, but when its farmers cry “wolf!””

Exactly that was cause for a row last year about the export of agricultural produce from Latin America to the EU. European farmers - France as usual at the head of the queue - protested en masse that they would lose their subsidies.
On the other hand, modern day farmers here in Belgium are being forced into expansion or go bust. They have to play the game along with the big corporations or get out. But they, too, have a strong union that will cry wolf for them. And what they say in Svabia is true here as well… ;)

]]> By: Poulette http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24143 Poulette Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:56:52 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24143 Peng, I see you're taking the 80's revival seriously by channeling the Iron Lady cca 1984: I. WANT. MY. MONEY. BACK. Peng, I see you’re taking the 80’s revival seriously by channeling the Iron Lady cca 1984: I. WANT. MY. MONEY. BACK.

]]> By: Dietmar http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24136 Dietmar Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:10:03 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24136 Some (not all) of them are such bright minds that they have two arguments: a) It has always been that way. b) You want some, bastard? Some (not all) of them are such bright minds that they have two arguments:
a) It has always been that way.
b) You want some, bastard?

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24133 pengovsky Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:48:03 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/27/where-have-all-the-farmers-gone/#comment-24133 Hehe - so you've got pitchfork-happy farmers too? :D Hehe - so you’ve got pitchfork-happy farmers too? :D

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