Comments on: Gone http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/ sex and politics Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:46:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Boštjan http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24320 Boštjan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:49:10 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24320 It maid or will another "gone" within next 15 min. I sent that to Michael (carniola.org) too..: this maid be interesting and is critical today... as you know I am spelunker (not in the funny meaning...heh...) and also very sensitive for the enviromental stupidity... Cave Krizna jama is most probably the most fantastic cave system in the World, to patriotic? Well... check it out: http://www.burger.si/Jame/KriznaJama/KriznaJamaENG.html and the new discovered part: http://www.burger.si/Jame/KriznaJama/NovaKriznaJama/ENG_Uvod_NovaKriznaJama.html . You can navigate trough the cave system as to be there. Now, what is the point this message... today, this Friday at 11 hour it seems that all will be over. In the area of Bloke (South Slovenia - the bottom of the Slovenia shape) nearby Nova vas, was built the Water treatment facility for the 350 Pe (Pe - population units) which outflow is directly into the Pisani rov. Such projects are welcome but in the case of Krizna jama the project was wrong and made very 'silently'. We (spelunkers) had protested to change the project in the way to save the cave, in the very beginning of the project last year but no success unfortunately. Krizna jama has one of the most diverse subterranean habitats in the World and Nova Krizna jama has even the highest level of the nature protection in Slovenia - at least on the paper... today the facility will start to operate as a "test". As a "test"... yes... they will run is for a few months and then check what will happen in cave... no previous study or whatever... like in the "Middle age"... what can be done? Ministry of the enviroment said that all is under the EU directive, no "common sense", no reality - only 'by the book'...but even this not as the facility will run without the official approvement to operate today. Bostjan It maid or will another “gone” within next 15 min. I sent that to Michael (carniola.org) too..:
this maid be interesting and is critical today… as you know I am spelunker (not in the funny meaning…heh…) and also very sensitive for the enviromental stupidity… Cave Krizna jama is most probably the most fantastic cave system in the World, to patriotic? Well… check it out: http://www.burger.si/Jame/KriznaJama/KriznaJamaENG.html and the new discovered part: http://www.burger.si/Jame/KriznaJama/NovaKriznaJama/ENG_Uvod_NovaKriznaJama.html . You can navigate trough the cave system as to be there.
Now, what is the point this message… today, this Friday at 11 hour it seems that all will be over. In the area of Bloke (South Slovenia - the bottom of the Slovenia shape) nearby Nova vas, was built the Water treatment facility for the 350 Pe (Pe - population units) which outflow is directly into the Pisani rov. Such projects are welcome but in the case of Krizna jama the project was wrong and made very ’silently’. We (spelunkers) had protested to change the project in the way to save the cave, in the very beginning of the project last year but no success unfortunately. Krizna jama has one of the most diverse subterranean habitats in the World and Nova Krizna jama has even the highest level of the nature protection in Slovenia - at least on the paper… today the facility will start to operate as a “test”. As a “test”… yes… they will run is for a few months and then check what will happen in cave… no previous study or whatever… like in the “Middle age”… what can be done? Ministry of the enviroment said that all is under the EU directive, no “common sense”, no reality - only ‘by the book’…but even this not as the facility will run without the official approvement to operate today.

Bostjan

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24309 pengovsky Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:11:10 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24309 Hey, that's some piece of work! I really love your site - especially the VR section. I did a virtual tour there before visiting Franja with <a HREF="http://sparewinterhours.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Les Canadiens</A> I would like to point out that at the moment yours is the only surviving Franja out there. Albeit in VR. Hey, that’s some piece of work! I really love your site - especially the VR section. I did a virtual tour there before visiting Franja with Les Canadiens

I would like to point out that at the moment yours is the only surviving Franja out there. Albeit in VR.

]]> By: Boštjan http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24294 Boštjan Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:26:27 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-24294 I was there early in the morning the very "next day" and did the documentation what had happened. You can see the situation with Virtual Reality panoramas and navigate as to be there: http://www.burger.si/QTVR/Dogodki/2007_BolnicaFranja/seznam.html Turn speakers on to hear the story about the Run for a life, I recorded it to my Mini Disc. When I had finished my work that morning first TV teams came. However...I did some preivious documentation of the location in the year 2005 and even in the year 2000: http://www.burger.si/Cerkno/Franja/seznam.html I was there early in the morning the very “next day” and did the documentation what had happened. You can see the situation with Virtual Reality panoramas and navigate as to be there: http://www.burger.si/QTVR/Dogodki/2007_BolnicaFranja/seznam.html
Turn speakers on to hear the story about the Run for a life, I recorded it to my Mini Disc. When I had finished my work that morning first TV teams came.
However…I did some preivious documentation of the location in the year 2005 and even in the year 2000: http://www.burger.si/Cerkno/Franja/seznam.html

]]> By: Fabio Turel http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23396 Fabio Turel Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:58:04 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23396 <strong>Michael Moore did not know...</strong> At least six people died last Tuesday as heavy rain caused floods in northwestern Slovenia. While expressing my regret for the loss of human lives, I also want to point out the destruction of a piece of the European Heritage,... Michael Moore did not know…

At least six people died last Tuesday as heavy rain caused floods in northwestern Slovenia. While expressing my regret for the loss of human lives, I also want to point out the destruction of a piece of the European Heritage,…

]]> By: Dietmar http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23289 Dietmar Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:33:30 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23289 <a href="http://www.gorenjskiglas.si/novice/gorenjska/index.php?action=clanek&id=11670" rel="nofollow">Gorenjske Novice</a> has got some more photos in high resolution. How are things in other parts of Slovenia? From what I've read, Štajerska and maybe Prekmurje were hit aswell. Gorenjske Novice has got some more photos in high resolution. How are things in other parts of Slovenia? From what I’ve read, Štajerska and maybe Prekmurje were hit aswell.

]]> By: Jay http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23226 Jay Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:30:47 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23226 That's awful. I can't believe it. That’s awful. I can’t believe it.

]]> By: lisa http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23225 lisa Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:29:17 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23225 Oh my god! Oh my god!

]]> By: Dietmar http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23194 Dietmar Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:30:45 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23194 Ouch, that hurts. It is an even more strange feeling as I have been to all these places slightly more than a week ago.... :-( Ouch, that hurts. It is an even more strange feeling as I have been to all these places slightly more than a week ago…. :-(

]]> By: Sunshine http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23192 Sunshine Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:25:10 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23192 This is one of those examples that we have to live for today. I never even thought that Franja might just disappear one day. And so in all those less busy weekends, I have never ever been there. And all it would take is one day and some good company. :( :cry: This is one of those examples that we have to live for today. I never even thought that Franja might just disappear one day. And so in all those less busy weekends, I have never ever been there. And all it would take is one day and some good company. :( :cry:

]]> By: venera http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23191 venera Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:24:02 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/09/20/gone/#comment-23191 Damn. And I was planning to take my daughter there to see this unbelievable hospital. Damn. And I was planning to take my daughter there to see this unbelievable hospital.

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