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]]> By: 1984 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-10385 1984 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:25:00 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-10385 Hi everyone, I'm Mike (my current name of choice), formerly known as Jaša Mikec. Some people call me Mr. Bad News. I've found this page via a Google Alert . I'm going to post here a bit of text that I've intended to be a standard response to anything pertaining to my person that is published anywhere on the Web and seems to be taken out of the broader context of my campaign. 1 Anyone who has read anything about me is strongly encouraged to read all the material which I have been using during Phase 2 of my Anti-Guru / Anti-Big Brother campaign. Don't listen to the rumors and do not spread rumours. Get the facts right! My booklet can be downloaded for free here: www.WakeUp.to/Gurus And don't forget to peruse also www.wakeup.to/1984 to understand the analogy between my dreadful experiences under the tyranny of my guru, and the horrible suffering of people under the tyranny of the BIG BROTHER as described in George Orwell's "1984" . 2 I have only bad news for you. I'm sorry, but the picnic is over, so get ready for the storm. GET READY! Ignorance can be bliss, but ignorance can also kill. Whether you read my booklet or Orwell's "1984" you are likely to get a headache. Read nevertheless! Though my personal story or Orwell's "1984" may initially seem completely unrelated to your own life-experience, PLEASE take this information very seriously because FROM NOW ON such manipulation and torture can happen to everyone - because of THE BIG BROTHER. My campaign is essentially about preventing Orwell's 1984 from materialising - but in order to achieve this goal I need to inform and mobilise large numbers of people. 3 Many of you are dissatisfied with your lives: you feel manipulated, you do not feel in control of your experiences, you'd like to be happier or healthier or wealthier... But from the point of view of a homeless beggar like me you are very fortunate: Most of you have your own room or house to live in, you have good clothes, cars, pets, DVD players, washing machines, sports equipment etc., you are able to get a job and be financially independent, you can get a partner and have sex, you can afford healthy food... homeless beggars like me have none of these commodities. Can you imagine life without a house, friends, sex, proper clothes and food? I'm here to tell you that UNLESS WE STOP THE BIG BROTHER YOU TOO MAY LOSE THESE ENJOYMENTS - and get yourself into a very uncomfortable situation. Many of you don't really know what real suffering is. S- u- f- f- e- r- i- n- g. I'm here to tell you that a lot of SUFFERING can befall you unless you learn to protect yourself. Think about suffering NOW in order to avoid it LATER. I know it is painful to imagine such a bad scenario, but have you got an alternative? Burying your head in the sand like an ostrich? Well, go ahead and do it, if you're sure it'll work for you. For my part, I'd rather keep my eyes open. 4 Guantánamo may seem very far away today, but if you are not careful a Guantanamo can be built in your own town tomorrow. You may not pay much attention to such vile phenomena as Goli otok - a thing of the past, where only DISSIDENTS go, you may think. Wrong. Guantanamo, Goli otok etc. are very much a thing of the future, where dissidents like YOU get tortured. What am I talking about? 5 This: In the past you were free to think whatever you liked, because most people could not read your mind. You could spend your entire life thinking that politicians like Tito were bad people, and still have a good time, so long as you kept quiet. Only those who made their opinions known by verbalising them became DISSIDENTS. But now we are entering the era of "thoughtcrime" - scientists already have mind-reading devices, and it is very easy to foresee how the Intelligence Services around the globe are eager to abuse this technology to achieve mass-control of the human population. Orwell foresaw it half a century ago. Ask yourself these two questions: a) Am I able to stop myself thinking that Bush is a jerk? b) What if, under some future legislation, the mere thought " Bush is a jerk" is classed as a crime punishable under law? STOP THE BIG BROTHER! www.wakeup.to/1984 http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX LATEST! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Hi everyone, My site http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/ has been updated. There have been interesting developments: 1 Both the benign and the malign telepaths have come out. An example of the former is Agent Stefan Miljevic, of the latter Sandro Mohorko (Gimnazija NM). Now you do not have to believe me anymore, they are declaring their psychic powers themselves. http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/latest_update_.html http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/agents.html 2 Finally, a few sympathisers of my cause have decided to actively participate, and we officially registered Association for Prevention of Psychological Terrorism: 1984 (Društvo za širjenje zavesti o psihološkem terorizmu: 1984) in LJ on 12-06-2007 http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/drustvo_1984_association_.html 3 N.B. Some people (who know nothing about me) seem to think that the purpose of my online exploits is to seek simpathy or perhaps even friends. Nothing could be further from thruth. One advantage of being a beggar is that one sees very cleary the true face of humans, and that face happens to be so ugly that one inevitably becomes a misanthrope, shunning human company. 4 Some other pages of interest: http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/carovnikov_vajenec_evald_flisar_.html http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/phase3.html http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/links.html http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/janez_drnovsek.html 5 And here's a link to a film that will remind you that philosophy is not merely about profound and extensive and complicated verbalisation, but is often about much baser matter: the content of your intestines. Since meat-eaters tend to to have wisdom inferior to vegetarians because the rotten content of their guts affects their brains and hearts in a detrimental way, please consider becoming vegetarians: http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/earthlings.htm (IN THEIR BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS ANIMALS, ALL MEN ARE NAZIS.) 6 Again, to any would-be spiritual seekers. There is something profoundly wrong with the cults in Slovenia. For example, some of the yoga people, and even some Hare Krishnas (whom I have never even mentioned in my campaigns) have threatened me with physical violence. These individuals look like complete madmen, so please make sure you too do not become one such. Bye, Mike Hi everyone,
I’m Mike (my current name of choice), formerly known as Jaša Mikec. Some people call me Mr. Bad News.

I’ve found this page via a Google Alert . I’m going to post here a bit of text that I’ve intended to be a standard response to anything pertaining to my person that is published anywhere on the Web and seems to be taken out of the broader context of my campaign.

1 Anyone who has read anything about me is strongly encouraged to read all the material which I have been using during Phase 2 of my Anti-Guru / Anti-Big Brother campaign. Don’t listen to the rumors and do not spread rumours. Get the facts right!

My booklet can be downloaded for free here:
http://www.WakeUp.to/Gurus
And don’t forget to peruse also http://www.wakeup.to/1984 to understand the analogy between my dreadful experiences under the tyranny of my guru, and the horrible suffering of people under the tyranny of the BIG BROTHER as described in George Orwell’s “1984″ .

2 I have only bad news for you. I’m sorry, but the picnic is over, so get ready for the storm.
GET READY! Ignorance can be bliss, but ignorance can also kill. Whether you read my booklet or Orwell’s “1984″ you are likely to get a headache. Read nevertheless! Though my personal story or Orwell’s “1984″ may initially seem completely unrelated to your own life-experience, PLEASE take this information very seriously because FROM NOW ON such manipulation and torture can happen to everyone - because of THE BIG BROTHER. My campaign is essentially about preventing Orwell’s 1984 from materialising - but in order to achieve this goal I need to inform and mobilise large numbers of people.

3 Many of you are dissatisfied with your lives: you feel manipulated, you do not feel in control of your experiences, you’d like to be happier or healthier or wealthier… But from the point of view of a homeless beggar like me you are very fortunate: Most of you have your own room or house to live in, you have good clothes, cars, pets, DVD players, washing machines, sports equipment etc., you are able to get a job and be financially independent, you can get a partner and have sex, you can afford healthy food… homeless beggars like me have none of these commodities. Can you imagine life without a house, friends, sex, proper clothes and food?
I’m here to tell you that UNLESS WE STOP THE BIG BROTHER YOU TOO MAY LOSE THESE ENJOYMENTS - and get yourself into a very uncomfortable situation.
Many of you don’t really know what real suffering is.
S- u- f- f- e- r- i- n- g.
I’m here to tell you that a lot of SUFFERING can befall you unless you learn to protect yourself.

Think about suffering NOW in order to avoid it LATER.

I know it is painful to imagine such a bad scenario, but have you got an alternative? Burying your head in the sand like an ostrich? Well, go ahead and do it, if you’re sure it’ll work for you. For my part, I’d rather keep my eyes open.

4 Guantánamo may seem very far away today, but if you are not careful a Guantanamo can be built in your own town tomorrow. You may not pay much attention to such vile phenomena as Goli otok - a thing of the past, where only DISSIDENTS go, you may think. Wrong.
Guantanamo, Goli otok etc. are very much a thing of the future, where dissidents like YOU get tortured. What am I talking about?

5 This: In the past you were free to think whatever you liked, because most people could not read your mind. You could spend your entire life thinking that politicians like Tito were bad people, and still have a good time, so long as you kept quiet. Only those who made their opinions known by verbalising them became DISSIDENTS.
But now we are entering the era of “thoughtcrime” - scientists already have mind-reading devices, and it is very easy to foresee how the Intelligence Services around the globe are eager to abuse this technology to achieve mass-control of the human population. Orwell foresaw it half a century ago.

Ask yourself these two questions:
a) Am I able to stop myself thinking that Bush is a jerk?
b) What if, under some future legislation, the mere thought ” Bush is a jerk” is classed as a crime punishable under law?

STOP THE BIG BROTHER!
http://www.wakeup.to/1984
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
LATEST!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hi everyone,
My site http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/ has been updated.
There have been interesting developments:
1 Both the benign and the malign telepaths have come out. An example of the former is Agent Stefan Miljevic, of the latter Sandro Mohorko (Gimnazija NM). Now you do not have to believe me anymore, they are declaring their psychic powers themselves.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/latest_update_.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/agents.html

2 Finally, a few sympathisers of my cause have decided to actively participate, and we officially registered Association for Prevention of Psychological Terrorism: 1984 (Društvo za širjenje zavesti o psihološkem terorizmu: 1984) in LJ on 12-06-2007

http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/drustvo_1984_association_.html

3 N.B. Some people (who know nothing about me) seem to think that the purpose of my online exploits is to seek simpathy or perhaps even friends. Nothing could be further from thruth. One advantage of being a beggar is that one sees very cleary the true face of humans, and that face happens to be so ugly that one inevitably becomes a misanthrope, shunning human company.

4 Some other pages of interest:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/carovnikov_vajenec_evald_flisar_.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/phase3.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/links.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/janez_drnovsek.html

5 And here’s a link to a film that will remind you that philosophy is not merely about profound and extensive and complicated verbalisation, but is often about much baser matter: the content of your intestines.

Since meat-eaters tend to to have wisdom inferior to vegetarians because the rotten content of their guts affects their brains and hearts in a detrimental way, please consider becoming vegetarians:
http://www.jonhs.net/freemovies/earthlings.htm
(IN THEIR BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS ANIMALS, ALL MEN ARE NAZIS.)

6 Again, to any would-be spiritual seekers. There is something profoundly wrong with the cults in Slovenia. For example, some of the yoga people, and even some Hare Krishnas (whom I have never even mentioned in my campaigns) have threatened me with physical violence. These individuals look like complete madmen, so please make sure you too do not become one such.

Bye,
Mike

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-4201 pengovsky Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:52:12 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-4201 No shame and no imagination... I hate being right... In this case at least ;) No shame and no imagination… I hate being right… In this case at least ;)

]]> By: Disablez http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-4199 Disablez Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:43:46 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-4199 Actually, u were right, "poor teenagers" "stole the laptops for selling them for drugs" :D:D:D This government has no shame. Actually, u were right, “poor teenagers” “stole the laptops for selling them for drugs” :D:D:D This government has no shame.

]]> By: Mike http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3785 Mike Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:46:19 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3785 http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/janez_drnovsek.html http://www.kiberpipa.org/~medy/1984/ http://members.lycos.co.uk/gurus/janez_drnovsek.html

http://www.kiberpipa.org/~medy/1984/

]]> By: SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY » Blog Archives » Coup d’Etat http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3777 SLEEPING WITH PENGOVSKY » Blog Archives » Coup d’Etat Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:12:21 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3777 [...] Poster for a fictisious Slovene political thriller -> click to enlarge (source: Oskar magazine, not published anymore) The other day I was raving about unexplained high-level break-ins and also promised lisa to post something on some rather freaky events in this country’s short history. Namely, I submit to you that we’ve witnessed two attempted coup d’etats in this country. ————————– DISCLAIMER (yes, this is so sensitive that I have to write a disclaimer first): The subject is highly volitaile and involves a number of high-level officials, some of whom are still in office. At least one of the two events described below is still subject to a heated debate, both in terms of the actual chain of events as the reasons behind it. It is also considered a turning point for Slovene democracy by some, while brushed aside as just another dirty ploy by others. The views expressed here are my own. I will supply as much backgroud information as possible but not at the expence of making a point. I will also provide the logic of my line of thought, which is admittedly based on some (in my opinion) sound general principles, rather than a particular decision of what is right and what is wrong. ————————– BACKGROUND One of the reasons Slovenia increasingly sought its future outside Yugoslavia in late 80s was the fact that Yugoslav Army, although federal in name, was a centralised institution unto itself, accountable to noone. The Army was not to be questioned, its position not undermined or otherwise diminished - quite the opposite. With the death of Josip Broz Tito, the Yugoslav Army considered itself the only true interpreter of Tito’s legacy. This clashed heavily with the (con)feredalist nature of Yugoslavia at the time when the six republics were increasingly growing apart and drowe especially Slovenes to frown upon the Yugoslav Army. [...] […] Poster for a fictisious Slovene political thriller -> click to enlarge (source: Oskar magazine, not published anymore) The other day I was raving about unexplained high-level break-ins and also promised lisa to post something on some rather freaky events in this country’s short history. Namely, I submit to you that we’ve witnessed two attempted coup d’etats in this country. ————————– DISCLAIMER (yes, this is so sensitive that I have to write a disclaimer first): The subject is highly volitaile and involves a number of high-level officials, some of whom are still in office. At least one of the two events described below is still subject to a heated debate, both in terms of the actual chain of events as the reasons behind it. It is also considered a turning point for Slovene democracy by some, while brushed aside as just another dirty ploy by others. The views expressed here are my own. I will supply as much backgroud information as possible but not at the expence of making a point. I will also provide the logic of my line of thought, which is admittedly based on some (in my opinion) sound general principles, rather than a particular decision of what is right and what is wrong. ————————– BACKGROUND One of the reasons Slovenia increasingly sought its future outside Yugoslavia in late 80s was the fact that Yugoslav Army, although federal in name, was a centralised institution unto itself, accountable to noone. The Army was not to be questioned, its position not undermined or otherwise diminished - quite the opposite. With the death of Josip Broz Tito, the Yugoslav Army considered itself the only true interpreter of Tito’s legacy. This clashed heavily with the (con)feredalist nature of Yugoslavia at the time when the six republics were increasingly growing apart and drowe especially Slovenes to frown upon the Yugoslav Army. […]

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3765 pengovsky Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:29:10 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3765 @lisa: I will - I decided on it five seconds after posting the said comment :D ... @alcessa: ... which means that I will post something every day so you'll be able to keep track of me :) If I'm gone for more than a week, please alert the <a HREF="http://www.ifj.org/" rel="nofollow">IFJ</A> and Amnesty International... ;) OK, only kidding... The powers that be have much more sophisticated means of exerting pressure :) @lisa: I will - I decided on it five seconds after posting the said comment :D …

@alcessa: … which means that I will post something every day so you’ll be able to keep track of me :) If I’m gone for more than a week, please alert the IFJ and Amnesty International… ;)

OK, only kidding… The powers that be have much more sophisticated means of exerting pressure :)

]]> By: alcessa http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3763 alcessa Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:00:28 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3763 Pengovsky, I would also suggest you post something here EVERY DAY. Several times. A post, a comment... So that, should you disappear, everyone will know at least WHEN. Pengovsky, I would also suggest you post something here EVERY DAY. Several times. A post, a comment… So that, should you disappear, everyone will know at least WHEN.

]]> By: lisa http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3762 lisa Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:42:49 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3762 Well, if you do write it up, you've got an interested audience...it's very hard to get this info, outside of personal conversation. Well, if you do write it up, you’ve got an interested audience…it’s very hard to get this info, outside of personal conversation.

]]> By: pengovsky http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3756 pengovsky Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:57:45 +0000 http://www.pengovsky.com/2007/03/22/relax/#comment-3756 @lisa & Disablez: To me, however, it seems like a movie re-run. There are striking similarities to several key events of the past. One day I might find even the time to post an English verison of the "Depala vas Affair", which (in my view at least) was an attempted coup d'etat (one of the two we've had so far). @lisa & Disablez: To me, however, it seems like a movie re-run. There are striking similarities to several key events of the past. One day I might find even the time to post an English verison of the “Depala vas Affair”, which (in my view at least) was an attempted coup d’etat (one of the two we’ve had so far).

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